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by the first amendment. free exercise of religion, not free exercise of faith. >> sean: you guys have been great. god bless all of you. that is all the time we have left >> when is the last time your insurance company gave you something free? never. president obama now says that the insurance companies should provide something free of charge. is that going to happen? plus, the president is taking heat from 10 state attorneys general. they are threatening to sue him for trampling on religious freedom. south carolina attorney general wilson goes "on the record." but right now, rick santorum
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joins us. nice to see you. >> thank you. nice to be back in the chair. >> you have been on the road? >> yeah. here for cpac, back in washington. good to see you, looking great. >> i am going to ask you about the hhs rule. but first, i'm curious, fund-raising, in light of the fact that you swept missouri, minnesota, colorado, how's the fund-raising? >> we have done $3 million in three days. it's been just overwhelming. just thank everybody. it's a great boost to us and obviously given us an opportunity to go out now and really start to play heavily in some states that -- that we think we have an opportunity -- michigan, in particular, we think we have a great message with our maid made in america plan. you know, the kind of economic growth that is going to get manufacturing back in this country and grow those jobs in michigan. you know, the other side, the western side of michigan, we have the good, strong conservative values that is, you know, grand rapids and that
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great western michigan heartland of america. we think we can run very, very well. >> do you really think you can beat governor romney? that's his stomping grounds. >> yeah. i came from a steel town in western pennsylvania, grew up, you know, in the working-class roots and had the opportunity to see what manufacturing means to this country, and what it did to the town that i grew up in. you know, going through the same thing in michigan as they did in western pennsylvania. woe put a plan together that without question will make michigan -- will turn that economy around in a heartbeat. that's what folks are looking for, they are looking for someone with ideas, maybe not the model. wall street journal called our plan the supply-side economics for the working man. and they criticizedded t. you can't single out and try to just help manufacturing. you can if that's where we are losing our jobs. i was watching your show the other night. you had your good friend on --
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>> which one? >> your dear, dear friend, donald. >> he took a swipe at you. >> yes, he difficulty a big swipe at you. >> yes, he did. >> but in the course of the conversation, he chilled out a little. >> he said, oh, yeah, he talked to me once. i talked to him, i was in a -- i had seen him on your show the day before and this was right after the straw poll. and i was in the sheets, which is a convenience store, one of these gas-and-go places. i got -- i was stewing about t. so i picked up the phone and called him. to his credit, he called me right back. he was criticizing me, as he did on the show. well, he lost his last race. i said, donald, have you ever failed at anything? when you did, did they give you another chance? or did they say, you failed once, you're done? he failed many times and came back. i think he is doing pretty well right now -- >> what did he say to that? >> he said, good point.
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i said, well, you know, you learn from failure, don't you? he said, yes, you do. so, criticizing me for failing once out of five races that virun, not particularly a fair way of looking at it. he said, no, you make a good point. i talked to him about what we were doing to combat china and get the manufacturing jobs in this country. he said, oh, yeah, but you talk about social issues too much. i said, the only reason i talk about social issues on this cam main right now, i talk about the importance of families and our economies. when family are broken, it's hard to do well economically, that's a fact. why shouldn't we try to help and nurture and support the family? he said, well, no, i understand that. he may not remember that conversation, i remember it very well. >> now the viewers remember it. >> there you go. >> hhs, the president's combination, your thought on it today? this is his effort to resolve what has been a big problem with
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the cath licks and many people with religious freedom. >> well, when the government says they are going to give you a right, guess what? they can tell you how they are going to exercise that right because you have given them control. >> meaning what? >> you have given them -- >> who is "them"? >> the government. you have told them, they are designing the system with every insurance policy in america. they will design the system of how much you will pay for that policy, how much you will pay if you don't pay for the policy, in other words, be fined. all of these things -- here's the important thing. you alluded to this. what is insurance for? you buy auto insurance for oil changes or to get gasoline? of course not! why is the federal government mandating insurance for something that is not a very expensive medical item? i mean, why are they requiring people, particularly -- if -- >> do you think insurance companies are really going to pay for this? >> of course not. >> they will find a way to pass it off. >> they will pass it off to the
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people who are purchasing the policy, which is -- which is catholic institutions. this is a -- this is a distinction without a difference. the bottom line is, president obama is still trying to force people to buy things that shouldn't even be insure in the first place because insurance is for things that can harm you financially if something bad happens to you. obviously, birth control pills are not particularly expensive item and should be the be insured and shouldn't be mandated. >> you spoke today at cpac and said you are the true conservative. do you think you are more conservative than the other candidates? >> here's what i talk about eye think i have the best contrast with president obam amount of all right. if you get the nomination, how do you then, if you are sort of the far out on the conservative side, strongest on the conservative side -- how do you get the moderates and
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independents in the general election? how do you convince those people to vote for you? twoi. things. first off, the point i'm making, on the real key issues of the day, the takeover of the health care system by the government with obamacare, the financial services sector with the bailouts and the attempt to take over energy, particularly energy and to some degree manufacturing with cap and trade, governor romney and speaker gingrich are pretty much with obama, not with where i think most americans are. >> you think the moderate and it is independents go with you? >> yeah. >> what about the social issues? >> yeah, i would say governor romney and speaker gingrich if you look at their positions and look at mine, they are pretty much identical. >> on social issues? >> they are both pro-life, for traditional mearng and against stem cell research. they weren't always, but right now, they are maintaining that they have the same position as i
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do. >> how does any republican come general election, get those swing -- get the moderate and it is independents with all of you on these sort of social issues, very conservative? >> by definition, a moderate has views in both camps. so the question is, what is more important at the election time, number 1 in and number 2 -- obviously right now, the issues that are very important for most people are the economy and the ridiculous debt that is burdening the next generation and the economy under control, by cutting the size and scale of government. i think most moderates and independents feel that way. we are on top of that and the national security posture, and this president's flailing away, particularly toward the state of israel. i think a lot of folks are not happy about that. i think those are the pressing issues of the day and as a result, i feel pretty comfortable that, you know, folks are going to see our base, the republican party, and be excited about our candidacy, my
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candidacy because i get the base excited. why would folks -- why would folks in the middle voted for someone that even the people who nominated him aren't excited about that? that's one of the keys to the obama win four years ago, the people who nominated him were really excited and that excitement and momentum has an impact on everybody, not just the people within the base. >> the viewers understand this whole process, you had how many hours' sleep last night? >> three or four. >> what time do you gets up tomorrow? >> a little before 4:00. >> and you hit the road? >> we are doing this live because my friend greta asked me to come on tonight -- i say that, you have been very, very fair and given me an opportunity to come on this show and i really appreciate. >> it i want the viewers to understand that the candidates are really running ragged and there is no sleep for anybody, it's a tough race for all of you. i appreciate you coming and every other one. some day, you will get some sleep. >> it's worth. >> it senator, thank you, sir. >> thank you. >> former governor of arkansas
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mike huckabee says the g.o.p. should be thanking president obama for the birth control controversy. why? here's what he said at the conservative political action conference. >> i want to say thank you, president obama, because have you done more than any person in the entire g.o.p. field -- any candidate has done to bring this party to unity and energize this party as a result of your attack on religious liberty and the attack on the personhood of every human being in america. thank you, president obama, for doing what none of us republicans apparently could get done. former arkansas governor and fox news host, mike huckabee joins us. good evening, governor. >> great to be with you. >> what do you think of the combination today? that's what they for calling it, the president has suggested the way to resolve the dispute over this contraception fight?
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>> too little, too late. you don't ooh comidate the constitution and you don't accommodate people's first-amendment rights. that's what the president was attempting to do, to ameliorate the situation with a very heavy-handed decision that trampled over the conscience of people of faith. not just catholics. i i think caghts licks are at the center of this. i uponr -- i am not a catholic but i am prolife. it's appalling to me that the health and human secretary was going to force religious colleges and other types of hospitals and institutions to provide something that is by their own nature against their doctrine of faith and violates their conscience. >> this is what i don't get. i am all for solutions and the solutions proposed today is that the insurance companies will provide it free. i have never seen an insurance company provide anything free. then i heard the secretary of hhs say the reason they would provide it free is because it makes good sense in the long run
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for them. i think to myself, if it makes good sense in the long run, why aren't they doing it now? i don't buy that one either. i don't see this as a solution to the ongoing problem. but it has put the lid on some people. some of the people who objected before see this as a major step forward? >> it's not a major step forward. in fact, all it does is -- it's a shell game. but here's one of the things that i would like to pose to the president. he talks about health care. a lot of these terms that are tossed about are euphemisms, pregnancy is not a disease, you are not preventing a disease. it's perfectly acceptable if people decide they don't want to be pregnant. but that's a decision they make, not to be pregnant. it is not like the prevention of something harmful to the human body because that's the natural process of what we do as human beings, is to recreate. now, the other part i want to
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make is if that's the logic we are going to aplierks it's a healthy thing to take a good dose of vitamin d3 every day, which i do. i don't expect the government to pay for that. i take aspirin every day, i take garlic tablets and fish oil every day. now am i going to get the government to pay for that because after all, it's good for me? it's part of health care? where does it stop when the government dictates the level of health care that somebody else is going to pay for, even if the provision of that health care, in the case of some forms of conttra raseption are a direct violation to the principle of sanctity of life. >> many republicans think this is a very good issue for them, going into 2012. i am curious what you think, we have had the unemployment level go down five consecutive months, a good trend for the president. we have by the end, we will have a decision from thees supreme court on health care. if by chance eye have no idea how the supreme court will decide, but if they declare the
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health care unconstitutional, that takes it off the table and the economy's improving with the unemployment level declining, what's the issue for the republican party going into 2012? >> this is an issue that the president didn't need to take up. in the last 10 elections with exit polling catholics in every one of those 10 elections, when they vote strongly for a candidate, that candidate wins, there are 47 million catholics in the united states. and how hayvote, if they vote substantially, will swing an election, it has in all 10 elections that we have seen in this country. so president obama -- >> let me ask you -- i also see numbers that are tremendous number of catholic women take contraceptions and i am wondering, does the hierarchy in the church have that much influence over the vote if the women seem to -- if they take the contraception? >> you know, i could a lot of catholics support the idea of contraception and a lot of
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evangelicals do contraception, as long as it's not an abortive form of contraception. but even catholic women who practice these contraception, i don't think the government wants to dictate to the church. it's an individual who makes the decision, whether they will obey the teachings of their church, the teachings of the bible. but it is not the purpose of the government to make those decisions for individuals and for the government to get between an individual and his or her church or his or her clergy or spiritual organization. that's want acceptable to americans, regardless of whether they believe in cont traseption. >> so this issue is not going away, even if some agreement has been made and it's declared unconstitutioninal june, you think that hasn't been a significant issue that's imbedded in people's minds going into november? >> i certainly do. i think the president stepped in t. he's in a deep hole. i don't think what he did today is going to fwix it. if i was john boehner i would
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put obamacare back on the house floor because now they know what's in it -- >> they still haven't read t. nobody has -- they still haven't read it. nobody's read that bill. we learned about it as the issus arise. governor, thank you. i think, what time is your show on saturday? >> 8:00 eastern. >> good. i knew that. i was trying to point that out. 8:00 eastern. thank you, governor. >> thank you, gret amount of state ahead, president obama has 10 state attorneys general all up in arms, threatening the president over the contraception fight. plus, madonna is angry and she is breaking her silence. she is blasting rapper m.i.a., to do with the super bowl half-time performance. hear from madonna, coming up. laces? really? slip-on's the way to go. more people do that, security would be like --
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>> greta: political fwolt a potential legal battle. contraception fight may be headed to court. ten attorney generals says they will take legal action. they are calling the compromise today political gymnastics. attorney general wilson joins us.
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good evening, sir? >> hey, greta, thank you for having me. >> greta: i see you written a letter and nine others to hhs to treasury and labor and number of cabinets that you are not satisfied with what is going on with this whole battle. i'm curious, was there any resolution or anything that could work this out so everybody is happy? >> well the obama administration admitted it was wrong and they could have a complete total exemption for all religious entities or employers that don't want to offer medical services they find unconscionable. that would be a good state. >> and what is gor going to be your next step. the president has proposed the so-called accommodation. that doesn't satisfy, so do you go to court monday morning? >> you have to look where you've
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been. this emanates from the obamacare that was passed last year. when you look at the individual mandate unconstitutional mandate that requires individuals to enter in healthcare insurance contracts, that is the first step. that wasn't enough. now, they are requiring employers, especially faith based employers to provide medical services they find unconscionable. that wasn't enough. now you are finding insurance companies to offer free products. i'm saying the trend here is increasingly picking up. one thing i see thing that they are accommodating this issue by saying okay, faith based employer, you no longer have to offer the unconscionable service but we'll have the insurance company do that. the problem is a lot of these universities and hospitals are self-insurers. they use a third party to actually administer their
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insurance contracts so they are providing the services themselves. what are they left with? we have to act quickly. we are waiting to see what the administration does. we waited earlier today, this was a red herring. there is no compromise. one thing i thought was interesting, these are supposed to free services, free medication to women. one thing i would like to see, over student knows there are no free lunches, just like governor huckabee the cost gets shifted somewhere else. >> greta: i've never seen an insurance company do anything that is free. it was such a great idea they would have done it already. i agree with you on that. i don't see this being something that is going to be shifted but attorney general, thank you. we'll be watching to see what you and your nine colleagues do.
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>> this is the widest travel advisory since mexico stepped up its drug war in 2006, in more than 47,000 people have been murdered in mexico since 2006. last year, 2011, 130 mesh americans were murdered in mexico. stay with fox newschannel for the latest on this developing story. >> gret ait's good to be with you. >> where are you? you are at washington university, but why, i should say? >> we went to wnl today because every four years, the students
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at wnl hold a mock convention. it's a convention, obviously for the party out of power. so this year's is a republican convention. they have well over 1700 students, delegates, participating and it's very much a washington & lee tradition to speak out on issues facing the country and direction of leadership. >> i understand, this has been going on for a hundred years here. they have been enormously success envelope identifying who is the nominee, over the course of this time. who do they identify today? >> well, they haven't yet taken the roll call. that will come tomorrow. there were plenty of speeches made today, plenty of activities surrounding the actual convention. tomorrow will be the actual roll call, just before the roll call takes place. former governor halley barber
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will be the keynote speaker and then will be the roll call of the states. >> it's interesting that speaker gingrich is not on the ballot in virginia. will he still be part of this process as a possible nominee by this group? >> yes, i think so. the different state delegations have been doing a lot of research. they have been talking to students that live in the 50 states and some of the territories that participate in the political conventions to come up with their suggested votes in terms of throwing their delegates behind a certain candidate. i do think that former speaker gingrich will be in play. >> all right. this wasn't a total academic exercise fur today. you also unveiled a business tax cut. is that correct? >> that's correct. when i spoke to the student delegates at w&l convention, what i said was this, i mean, we are going to have a very robust debate about the state of our
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economy and the direction in which we head as a country. i talked a lot about the president's recent rhetoric. you know, oftentimes, the president's talking about fair play and what is fair in terms of on our tax policy and who pays for the government? and i also spoke a lot about the president's proposed buffett rule that he has named after warren buffett. n.o.w. somehow he is conflating the maul and medium-sized business people with the likes of warren buffett. i said, we don't need a buffett rule, we need a buffer rule. we have to stop the intrusion of more and more government. washington's got enough money and we have to get the fiscal house in order by aiming at number 1, reducing spending and number 2, trying to increase the economic activity in the private sector. what i said was the back bone of america is our small business people.
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and so what i propose today is a 20% small business tax cut that goes right to the heart of the economic engine in this country, which are the men and women who are the entrepreneurs willing to go and take a risk if they just get some signal out of washington that washington will get out of the way and stop making it so expensive and so difficult. >> speaking of washington, i'm sure you have been following the controversy right here over this contraception issue. the president is now creating what he called the accommodation. that will satisfy your constituents in virginia isn't accommodation he sked? >> i don't think so because what we have here is a role by this president and his administration that goes after really, our first amendment rights to the paragraph our religion. as a member of a minority faith in this country, obviously the ability to practice my religion's very important to me, as it is for everyone in this country, which is what makes part of what makes america unique is the freedom for
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individual and it is religious establishments to do what it is that is consistent with their faith and within the law. [overlapping dialogue] >> he is saying -- >> are you suggesting? that the insurance companies will pay for it, that the religious institutions don't have to, that the insurance companies -- frankly, i don't see the insurance companies as being so magnanimous, but he does. >> how does that work? obviously, an employer, catholic hospital, is forced to provide access to contraceptives for its employees. how can that catholic institution expect an insurance company to pick up the cost of coverage? i mean, again, it is washington mandating that certain services be provided when those services are in contradiction to one's faith and that is anametha to who we are in america, that's fundamental first amendment
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rights here in virginia with thomas jefferson's statute of freedom that translated into the bill of rights, the first amendment. i am very upset about the direction that the president's taking with religious liberties, we are a tolerant people. we respect folks' rights to practice their religion. >> all right. march 6, super tuesday and the real primary, not the one at the university where you are. you have not yet endorsed. do you intend to endorse by march 6, or not? and if not, why not? >> i aren't really made that decision. i have left open the opportunity that i mae endorse in the presidential nominations race. obviously, this is a hugely important election. this is about the choice of the direction that our country's going to take. it is important that i think that we as republicans gmg in the debate of ideas as we see in our primaries right now. but i am looking forward to our coalescence around a nominee, a candidate so we can present the
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choice of whether we are going to be more like our allies in europe and become consumed with more spending, higher debt and provide the ultimate in terms of outcomes to people, just as the president suggests he wants everybody to have what he deems is fair. or are we going to be the country that continues to offer more opportunity, based on economic freedom, free enterprise and the ability for everyone in america, no matter where you are from, to have a fair shot at earning their success. >> so in other words, let me ask you this way, if any of the four candidates running for nomination is chosen, i assume it will be one of the four, you could support any of the four? >> obviously, i have some differences with ron paul's foreign policy. you know, i don't support american isolationism, i believe there is a reason why we have been able to secure ourselves because we believe in freedom. you know, we commit our men and
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women commit themselves to the fighting for freedom over'ss so that we can be secure here at home. you know, i subscribe to the notion that someone told me, iing would rather be on the receiving end of a 911 call rather than than that, than the country which has to make the call. i believe in a very strong national defense policy. so i valid an issue there. but again, i think all of our candidates from an economic standpoint, as it relates to the job issue and how we can grow this country again, i think all of them are fairly much on the same page. >> sir, thank you very much for joining us. i am looking forward to see who the students do pick tomorrow because they have been pretty much on the money over the last many decades. thank you, sir. >> thank you, gret amount of coming up, right now, the hottest spot on the campaign trail is right here in washington, d.c., the g.o.p. candidates near washington for cpac and today, conservative voters heard and you will hear from the candidates.
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giffords retired from congress last month, after recovering to being shot in the head last year. now back to "on the record." grt spending more to get out of their financial crisis. >> greta: governor mitt romney and rick santorum and speaker newt gingrich are, they are taking their fight for conservative support straight to the voters. all three presidential candidates spoke at the conservative political action conference in wkdz. >> this is the year to reset this country in a decisive, bold way. we need to teach the republican establishment a lesson. we are determined to rebuild america, not to manage its decay. >> presidency is more than public office. its sacred trust. this is a defining moment for america and conservative movement. make no mistake, we have an
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opportunity for greatness. >> we need somebody who is willing to go out on the big issues of the day and draw contrasts. we're not going to win this election ladies and gentlemen, because the republican candidate has the most money to beat up their opponent and win the election. >> we're going to win with ideas. we're going to win by making barack obama and his policies the issue in this race. [ applause ] >> greta: griff jenkins hit the ground at cpac and caught up with former speaker gingrich. ♪ >> reporter: what is the message here at cpac? >> the message is we need bold changes to get america back on the right track. bold changes to create jobs, bold changes to get gasoline to $2 a gallon. bold changes to balance the budget. this a choice between the conservative movement and a republican establishment which is timid.
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i think people need to understand this is a very long fight and continual tension between those of us who want to change washington and those who are comfortable managing the decay. >> i support gingrich. >> reporter: why? >> he is only one with a record reform of reducing the size of the federal government. >> i like newt gingrich a lot. i feel he has good conservative ideas. overall, mitt romney has the best chance of beating barack obama. anyone who goes up against barack obama will be the better person in my opinion. >> i'm still trying to make up my mind. i'm impressed with rick santorum he has a bump going on. i'm looking at him real close right now. >> the country is upside-down and we need somebody that is real bold to turn it right side up. >> mitt romney has best chance with success in business.
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>> reporter: mitt romney has just finished, and here are newt volunteers handing out campaign literature to switch to newt. why should the folks that just heard romney switch their minds to speaker gingrich? >> because with romney he is multiple choice. you never know what he stands for. >> speaking to a packed room, the clock is for every speaker. it counts down as you can see, the clock is counting up. which means santorum went over his time limit. >> you heard newt and heard santorum speak and something about what he had to say stuck with you. you may be considering like santorum more? >> i have been going back and forth. i was considering rick earlier. in fact i donated money to both of them. >> what i've seen so far, mitt was strong, mitt was terrific.
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>> this is very good thing that happened today. >> greta: the artist may be a silent move but has a lot of buzz. it's won three golden globe awards, best picture and comedy. now it's up for ten oscars. one of the stars, good evening penelope. >> greta: i think the movie is amazing. how hard is it to tell a story on the big screen without sound? >> it's surprisingly very easy. i think people are reluctant and scared to go see a silent movie because they are not used to it. but the movie worked so well, once you are in the audience and your five minutes into film, you forget it's silent because it's a great story.
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it's so entertaining and uplifting that people get caught up with it. it's really exciting because people i think are surprised that they are having such a good experience watching a silent film. >> i suppose natural for you. you started out in theater and been on broadway and tv, and when the movie and script was brought to you, did you jump at it or think, i don't think so? >> i thought was bizarre. certainly in 20 you is, i couldn't believe somebody was making a black and white film. we did chaplain and reenacted some of the things but not the entire film. i know my agent was apprehensive to bring it to me.
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a lot africa tors were intimidated about the thought of doing a silent film and not sure anybody would see it. now i'm sure they are kicking themselves. but there was no way to predict this would be happening to the film. ten oscar nominations and god el globe. it's very exciting, but i think it's a testament to our director i can barely productive his name and he's made an incredible film. it's working on all sill ders. >> greta: to be up for ten oscars, black and white silent. it's taking the country by a storm. its phenomenal idea. going with the oscars it's the one to beat. >> that is very kind of you to say. we're in great company.
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i know it sounds cliche. we're so honored to be part of the conversation. it takes a movie like this, it takes a lot to get people to go. these awards and accolades mean a lot to us. people don't run out to see a silent film. more buzz we get the better. we're very excited. >> greta: i should add it was all shot in united states, all shot in hollywood which is very good for the people that work there. it wasn't taken overseas where it could have been done a lot cheaper. good movie for people to see. >> thank you so much. >> greta: straight ahead, a stunning basketball shot we got it caught on camera. it wasn't kobe bryant or have i got a surprise for you!
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